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I
am wondering if I need to report (as income) the home that my mother just
deeded to us.
She has moved to a patio apartment and said just do with the home whatever
we want. The abstract hasn't been brought up to date because it wasn't
clear from the previous owner. She said they called it a sick
deed and she had bought the house on a quick claim deed. Do
you know anything about this?Any insight in to these issues would be
helpful. Thanks.
Beverly
I.
Hi Allen,
One situation where I was trying to talk these people into doing
a short sale said their lawyer advised them not to do it. Why would
a lawyer be against doing a short sale?
You should ask. Find what logic there could be. What does the lawyer know possibly, that we don't? Wouldn't that be better than going into foreclosure as far as saving your credit? From our perspective, yes. There is a possible negative. The IRS, if they found out, could tax the borrower on the amount of the loan that was forgiven. Even so, I still believe better than foreclosure.
Also, one of the properties that I am working on is worth $250,000 (guess)
and he owes $174,000. He is behind $8,000. He has a
foreclosure breach date of May 21st. (I am not sure what a
foreclosure breach date means) He said it must be paid off by then.
Been in the business 21 years and I have never heard that term. Anyway it is a deadline date that he has been given. Probably, the last date he has to right to bring the loan current. Afterwards, lender can demand entire payment. I don't know if he meant the whole amount or some of it. Would you still do a short sale since he has $76,000 in equity? Probably not, and would not hurt to still try, means owner would have to walk away with nothing unless you were paying him under the table. $76,000 equity, could be worth paying lender in full. The reason I am asking is aren't short sales only for properties that have hardly any equity? Usually. Couldn't I just call up his mtg company and let them know that I could list his property in the mls if they could hold off on the foreclosure? Yes. Do you still ask for a short sale package? Yes, you could ask to know their response, the justification perhaps being due to work needed, commission, closing cost, and the need for a quick sale. The question would be; "If I brought you an offer that required you to discount the mortgage to close the deal, would you consider a short sale?"
This way you get an indication if it is
worth the time and effort putting together the short sale
package.
I haven't seen his property yet but it sounds like everything is in good condition except for a roof leak in an area of the house which he doesn't have the money to fix it.
Talk to you soon.
Vita
I need information on owner financing.
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Allen,
Hello allen,
I just got your book, and will be ordering your seminar video, I have a property owned by a client of mine, (I am a licensed agent in Kansas) it is a
non-owner occupied, that a relative of his who is handicapped living in it. The situation is my client owns millions of dollars of investment property mostly land that is just not been good for him, he is planning on filing bankruptcy, his attorney says to try and refinance this home that the relative is living in so it doesn't have equity that will get the trustees attention and want to sell, how can I buy this equity or get a second mortgage on the property without spending any cash of my own?
Tom I have to say that I was kinda' disappointed to hear that you would no longer be giving live seminars. I was truly looking forward to going down this weekend. However disappointed, I do understand that business is business and decisions will sometimes involve disappointments. I will be ordering the seminar on video. I just hope that it is as good as the live seminar would have been.
Curtis F What is your opinion on Robert Allen, Russ Whitney and Carlton Sheets?
I did the Robert Allen thing and did receive a wealth of info, but there were too many subjects to cover in the short amount of time that I was given. A lot of the "no money down" techniques that he teaches (50+) seem outrageous. I say that because I have not tried any of them and would feel like an idiot trying to explain to someone something that I don't fully understand!! Teddy (Theodore) Dallow said that it is possible to obtain (I never doubted) properties with 0 down, but the purchaser assumes 100% debt. I liked your book as well.
Thank you
for your comment.
No, I have
never heard of the 40 thieves. Some people will come up with any excuse to
justify their lack for taking action. When I first started in 1983 I was concerned about all
the competition. I was advised to just do it, and I did. Attend some
auctions, mingle a bit, and chase some deals. The only thing for sure is, if
you don't try, you definitely won't make any deals.
The best to
you!
Dear Mr. Watkins,
I am an older person with
academic degrees, which include Philosophy ,from the University of
Penn.
All I want to do is explore some interesting
idea's about investment Real estate, which I trust is what most other people
want as well. Thank you.
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That
is great, I cheer you on! And why just explore? I say experience life!
Experience
interesting ideas about investment real estate.
My
book "The Reality of Real Estate Investing" provides a good
foundation of knowledge, and practical "How To."
My
game " The Virtual Reality of Real Estate Investing" provides a real
life investment experience without the real life risk.
I
believe what most people want is more. More of all aspects of life. Not just
window shoppers looking in from the outside.
People
want to be in, in the know, in the enjoyment of the experience, in the having
of more.
In
the experiencing of having of more, people want to now share more
with others, which adds even more to their experience.
Thank
You for your comment! Have a Fantastic day!
I have been looking around and I would like to get into the real estate investment area. I have little experience in this area, Could you please send me some information on how the passive investor program works, I have the 15,000 to invest, I would just like the particulars . Thanks! ScottHi Scott,
What would be the down side? Hello Allen I am an entrepreneur as well, and after life has thrown not one but two or three curve balls my way I have lost all positive perspective I used to have and am just plain tired! But I need my life to be different, better. I have people depending on me and I would like to get my life on track again. I used to be a Covey consumer, but I am so tired mentally, spiritually and physically, with things only seeming to get more difficult the more I try, that its an effort to even care. My faith has dwindled to a hope. There could be some positive changes for me in the horizon, but I'm afraid I won't be ready for them. Signed, Awaiting some direction.I'd also think of the people who I most wanted to benefit from my success my family, and keep them fresh on my mind. Then there are those who had treated me like I couldn't do it, become successful. Who had thrown me curve balls. I wanted to prove I could! I'd keep these things on my mind all the time. To push me forward. To get me to reach down deep inside myself for the extra strength I sometimes needed to keep going, and to pray for strength when I just felt I had no more. What choice was there really? To stay in a rut, or never give up until I made it happen. No it wasn't easy, infact it was hard! I had many years of struggle however, it sure has been worth it! You have mentioned that there is a Foreclosure Directory available in
most cities. Is there one in my area? I'm very interested in foreclosures but wondering if there is enough business
in my area. I've called the county court and they said they do not publish any
listings of the foreclosure cases. If I want to look for them I have to go to the courthouse and search every
civil case to see if its foreclosure or not. One more question, in your book, you said I have to have my deposit with me
when I go to the auction. Is it for the whole value of the house or for a
certain percent only, like 20%. Also, what if I had a couple of houses that I will try to bid on at the same
auction, do I need a separate money order for each one? I'm not very clear how do you provide the proof for the auctioneer that you
are a capable investor so that you can bid. Could you explain more? I would really appreciate any insight from you. I'm currently reading your book "Get Rich Foreclosures or the Reality of Foreclosure Investment". I like it and boy I have a lot to know and learn. Looking forward to hear from you soon. Thanks Nadia Dear Allen, I have recently purchased Carlton Sheets "No Money Down" coarse for the second time. I run a Life Insurance agency and have always wanted to get into real estate. The problem I have, is I just don't seem to be able to follow the 1st and 2nd morgage, sections OR creative finacing part. I am smart enough to run a 25 person agency at 32 years old and be ranked #3 in the U.S, but for some reason this section HAS ALWAYS kept me from following my dreams and goals to get involved. I then saw your ad when looking for property and found your web site. Do you do walk thru classes, step by step (in laymens terms) or even one on one consulting? My seminar is jam packed with meat & potatoes information because I'm simply not a puff & fluff kind of guy. The out line is on the web site of what I cover. I also offer a mentor program. And I would be happy to answer a specific question for you.
I appreciate your insight. Keep that attitude up, keep moving forward, you'll get there, and most important you'll positively influence others along the way as your already doing and more! Thank you for replying, I was in the middle of ordering your book online when your email came thru. I believe I may try to get into your next seminar. When is the next date? April 5th. You can call 219-979-4607 to reserve your seats. Last one was sold out.
Personally, I would say real estate investing in much better.!
Hi Allen, I was just wondering if you had "sure fire" tactic for
getting people to respond to you while they're in their denial stage during the
pre-foreclosure period. I have three great prospective properties and have one
phone number. The other numbers are unlisted. I've tried cross-directories to no
avail. I've sent them all a letter introducing them to me the concept of helping
them out of at least part of their problem. I left my cell number as a
call-back, but nothing's happening. I called the party who's number I do have,
but they will never take my calls. Are these
situations where I just have to wait for the inevitable - the auction? Andy V. Hi Allen, I have purchased your book two weeks ago and right
after I've finished reading your book I feel very
confident about investing in real estate. Your book
contains a lot of very useful information that were
based on real life scenarios. I very much like the
case in point section.
I found a house that will be auctioned this coming March 11th. I did your research just like the book suggested. I found out that the judgement amount is for its second mortgage. It has a federal tax lien of almost $20K. The owners still occupies the property and they are in their late 50s. The guy is deaf. So you would be bidding on the second mortgage and willing to pay the 1st as well. My questions are as follows: 1) What happens to the federal tax lien if I successfully get a hold of this property? I bought one once with a $27,000 IRS lein. It was wiped out. Wouldn't hurt to contact them to verify their position on the matter. 2) How would you deal with the owners in this case after successfully getting a hold of the property? It really depends on the circumstances. Bottom line is, if I want a tenant and I like them, and they prove the ability to pay, it is easier to keep them on. Otherwise, they have to move. I may help them with 1st month's rent and security deposit. Also, talk with their other family members, who may know of the circumstances to help them. 3) Will a title company do a title search on a property that will be foreclosed? Sure as long as your willing to pay them, which is at risk if you don't win the bid. You could do your on track search through the county building. Let me know how it works out. Check out my mentor program on the web site. It has recently been re-structured. Second mortgages at auctions. How does that work? Do you then pay off the
first mortgage even if it has been kept current (not being foreclosed on)? Do
you then after purchasing the 2nd mortgage, then purchase the note to the 1st
mortgage? Please provide a detailed laymens explanation. If you buy a 1st mortgage at the auction and the 2nd does not show to bid, they get wiped off, cleansed from the property as does all junior liens. Thank You, Sincerely, J. Badal Dear Allen, Thank You for your kind comments. This is very new to me. I'm still in the gathering and thinking stage, reviewing my personal situation, considering the pros and cons. I'm leaning strongly to asking you to consider accepting me as a student should I decide to go forward-I cant imagine working with anyone else and I cant imagine doing it with out the mentoring of someone I could trust. Before I get too excited about that idea, is there any reason to think you wouldn't? No. I do offer mentoring, you can check it out on my web site. I realize that you are selective and also that the fact that I am hearing impaired may be a problem. But I hope you'd consider me as a student. Sincerely, Anna R We are only limited by that which we allow to limit us. Certainly, being hearing impaired is a nuisance. So you learn to work around it, reading lips, carrying a note pad, and it of course will sometimes work to your advantage, because people are generally sympathetic, and would say yes to you, when they otherwise would say no to someone else. You just conduct yourself boldly, with full confidence moving forward, not allowing it limit you anymore than absolutely necessary. And others will be inspired by you! Allen, When I bought your book, you said I could email you with any questions. I have found a house to buy, and I have a BIG question. None of the banks I am contacting are willing to lend the full appraised value. They want 30% down because it is not our primary home, and more points on interest, etc. How do you ever get to do this? Are there special banks that will lend the full amount? No. I'm not aware of any lender that would loan the full amount of value to an investor. Scenario:Other houses in the area are worth $135K. I have made a deal for $100k. The house needs some work. I want to borrow the full amount of the $135.... I want to fix it up and sell it for market value with some of the money and I want to make some money too. They want to only lend 70% of the agreed selling price, with my putting 30% down. You would think that with $35,000 between what I am able to buy it for, and the market value of the homes in the area, that this would be the right house and the right deal....but what should I do??? Should I buy the house outright with cash and then get an Equity line? But some banks won't give an equity loan right away, you have to wait so many months. Also, the rate is then flexible instead of fixed, and they will only loan up to 80 - 85% of appraised value. If I put the $100k.back in my pocket, it doesn't leave me a lot to work with or have made any money as is outlined in the book. So I have to think there are banks that do this on a daily basis for investors, that don't penalize us. Right? Who are they, or what do you suggest I do? Thanks for your help! Barb B Even in 1983 when I started this was a problem. I just kept searching until I found a lender who required no seasoning, and would allow cash back. Seek out lenders who are portfolio lenders, meaning they keep the loan in house, and don't sell on the secondary market. I generally use cash first, fix, rent, and then refinance for cash back. Which means money above what I have into the deal. It is tax free money until I sell, if I ever do. The profit potential in this deal you describe. is not $35,000. You mentioned it needs work, and what about acquisition, holding, and selling cost. These are real numbers that need to be considered up front. Perhaps you don't have enough room in this deal. Could you turn around and assign your contract to a handy home buyer, and make a little profit without actually owning the property? Yes, depending on the actual numbers. Dear Allen, I just found your website and found a lot of interesting information. I will definitely invest in your books and sound advice. My question is... I found a seller of a home that will be going into foreclosure soon. After spending a couple hours talking with the seller, it came down to this... They just want out of their home. They want me to simply take over payments of their mortgage. I know that I need to insure the title and get the deed transferred over into my name with the witness of a notary public. What else do I do? Are all mortgages transferable? Do we need escrow if no money is changing hands? As you can see I am new at this and don't quite know how to go about doing this. Can you please inform me as to what steps to take? Thanks A Million! Terry JIt really depends on the specific circumstances. With the general information provided I will give you a general response. Just let them deed it over to you, and give you possession. No, you do not need to spend money for title insurance yet. The mortgages are not in your name, and you are not liable for them. By the seller deeding their interest over to you, whatever that interest may be, gives you control of the property. Now with that control you can order title to firm up what all the liens are. You should have the seller provide you paperwork, and contact information on all the liens they acknowledge. Also, have them sign a letter authorizing the lien holders to talk to you about their lien. Likely, the the home is over indebted thus the reason they are so willing to sign it over for nothing. That is OK, now you can work on getting lien holders to accept a short sale (discount) to create the necessary profit, or if that does not work out, you could rent the home and make the mortgage payments for a cash flow. If there is no cash flow, don't make the payments, rent until the banks takes back or agrees to a short sale. Just don't make any promises to the sellers that you may not be able to keep. You can only promise to work with the situation and make the most of it.
Dear Allen , About 5 months ago my bankruptcy was discharged. I am desperately trying to get a loan to refinance my 1st and 2nd mortgage into one. With a fixed rate and low interest. I a single mom one child in collage and it is getting harder to pay these two mortgages. Please help me in finding out who can help me? How long do i have to wait be discharged before refinancing? Can i have any bank refinance my second mortgage only with a lower interest rate? I AM LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION TO MY PROBLEM PLEASE HELP. Thank You You should start with the company that has your 1st mortgage currently, see if they would refinance enough to take care of the 2nd, and give you a low enough interest rate to make it worthwhile. If not it is just a matter of keep shopping till you find someone who will. Some lenders prefer waiting a year or 2 after your BK, but there are a lot of lenders out there, so just keep trying it will happen if your persistent. Always ask what you need to make happen in order for them to be able to finance you or give you a better rate. So you'll know what to focus on making better. Once you find someone to do the refinance, don't just ask the 2nd for a pay off letter, & don't tell them what your doing, just ask if they would consider discounting what you owe them to get all cash now. See how they respond. Good Luck!
Hi Allen;
dear Allen...I purchased your book last summer (my
name is Sharon thorn dike from Chicago)...I would like to ask you a question.i
am ready to start my venture and want to know how I can protect my interest.
here is the situation: i have a cash investor and I have a foreclosure coming
to auction. how do I insure that my investor will not go to the auction and
bid and get the property and not pay me my finder's/acquisition fee? do you
have some form or contract you use or ??? I
would appreciate any information you could provide. thank
you,
Sharon t
It has been so long since I needed to use someone else's money, no I don't have a contractual form already prepared to give you. You could pay an attorney for something with a lot of hard to understand legal jargon. But likely if he were to stiff you wouldn't sue anyway, just pass the word and stay clear of him. So what I have done many years ago, and will now get around to preparing one for my course. But for you right now, prepare an agreement called Contractual Agreement, put by & between, put your names, and state what each of you agree to do and not do, sign it and move forward. Have a separate agreement for each property. You'll have to take a leap of trust and if it works out, it will be a good relationship. Sounds like your just giving him a lead that is going to the auction. You should go with him to the auction. Hi Allen, Tell her not to worry. My guess is you'll probably be inheriting the building at some future date, and tell her that your concern is for her to just enjoy the years she has left as comfortably as possible. at some future date, and tell her that your concern is for her to just enjoy the years she has left as comfortably as possible. I have read numerous books on working leverage OPM!!!! We did that now I want to do as planned and buy an investment property. I found one in Michigan near my moms home. Property is a total gut rehab. This is exactly what we have been doing at my grandmothers building. She is now apprehensive at spending more for more debt. The property is a repo. 25,000. The realtor said an offer for 20,000 was denied a month ago. Realtor commission is 1,250. I think an offer of 21,000 with financing or a check for 18-19,000 cash would take it. A friend of mine who helped with our Chicago rehabs estimated costs with me and found a rehab with middle class amenities. (same as neighbors) Would cost 37,400 - 44,400. Of course we want to keep it low or lower and will be doing a majority of the work. Comp properties in the neighborhood sell for 92,000 - 99,000. Investment seems to be 55 - 60,000.$65,000 is the high estimate. This should include holding, and selling cost. How do we not loose much money to capital gains but also take some out for us. I hope you have some advice. You pay no tax on the money you draw from your credit line, remember? Because it is borrowed. You only pay tax on profit after maximizing all possible deductions. Check with your accountant or tax advisor. Basically, all expenses associate with your investment are deducted from your sale proceeds, then what is left is profit and with that you cannot not avoid tax. Oh well, the great USA only takes a little, you get the majority of it.Feeling bummed because I was unaware how my
grandmother was worrying some...mind you she is ok but was not wanting more
debt. I KNOW I CAN DO THIS!!!!!! I WANT TO! Any help on any situation we are now
in is greatly appreciated. Thanks Allen. You should consider the mentor program. Allen, Hello Mr. Watkins Just as the Sheriff or Judicial Deed wipes out liens, it also voids any lease agreements. You have no responsibility to tenants. They just become a victim of the prior landlord. I usually work something out with them to remain on as my tenant, when circumstances are right. What is your service called that lists the foreclosures with all the research done? Ted B The Foreclosure Report of Chicago & Suburbs On my web site click on State of IL, then the report. Hello, we are sort of confused on a few things and I am hoping you can help us out. We live in Hobart and we are looking to make investments and we're new at this. Can you please tell us in "plain English," not some confusing lingo what the difference between these are and what is the best way: What is a Sheriff Sale and is it smart? A foreclosure auction, open bidding format. What is the difference between Sheriff sales and tax sale? Sheriff sales are for delinquent mortgages, you get deed in IL & IN with in 30 days. Tax sales are for delinquent taxes, you get deed after a 2 year redemption period. Unless it is a commissioner tax sale then you get deed with in 30 days however, generally the properties that go to sale are the bottom of the barrel. Which one is better? Sheriff Sale. And, what's the difference between these and buying a foreclosure home. We are going to go to an auction this Saturday just to check it out. But can you PLEASE help us understand the language. Sheriff sales are foreclosure homes. Within the foreclosure process you can deal with the owner before they lose the home, go to the auction, or if no one buys it there, buy from the bank. If your serious about learning, my book is only $25, very informative, then there is the board game. A real life virtual experience! Thank you Very MUCH Pete and Karen Dear Allen, Thanks for your comments! I'm not sure you understand what a good mentor will actually do for you. They actually do not do things that you can do for yourself. Like go to the court house to show you where locate the files, read through them, and become familiar with the different documents. Performing this physical activity, and mental exercise would not be the best use of their time. Because you can do it with just guidance and direction. If one was offering to do such things it would be because your willing to pay a lot of money to have them do it. This however, would show their lack of wisdom and real success. Because it is not just about the money. Myself, as well as other successful people turn down offers for money all the time. Not because the money is not good, but because we have reached a level of wisdom and financial success to realize our time has more value than just money, and so does the students. To advise students with wisdom, for their greatest long term financial, and learning experience benefit, and not just for the mentors monetary gain, is a sign of a true mentor. A mentor provides guidance, direction, knowledge, encouragement, accountability, motivation and thoughts of wisdom based on experience. What more could you ask for? Check out my mentor program on my web site. What happens to an IRS lien on a foreclosed property sold at auction. I understand that they have a right to redeem up to 6 months? Tom JNot in IL, I bought one with a 27,000 IRS lien. It was wiped out immediately. Dear Allen, I wrote the book that I wished would of been available to me when I first started out.. Lots of testimonials on web site. I visualize myself buying a series of small fixer-uppers for rental and borrowing money on those to continue building my empire! Would this be best for someone with a small amount of money, or should I look at turning each one over and rising up the value scale each time? It would seem to me that 4x $50.000 houses would generate more income than 1x $200.000 house and the risk is spread wider? That is correct! I also read that well known ghost written book by a real estate developer in Hawaii with two fathers which was all "puff and fluff" and no "meat and potatoes but he did mention one interesting thing and that was by using a 1031? you can sell a property for a profit and by reinvesting in another property, not have to pay capital gains tax. What is (if I have the number right) a 1031?Phewwww.... Robert was talking about the 1031 tax free exchange. More completed than it sounds. I have never personally done one, but hear it is done by some. I like buying, fixing, renting, refinancing for return of all my out of pocket money, plus a tax free profit, and then a monthly cash flow. Those are cash flow machines. Allen, Yes. When you sell it then becomes taxable. But if you have done it right, you have created a money machine that you may never want to sell. Let's say I buy a house for $40K, put $5K into it, and then it is worth $80K. I then refinance it for 75% of its value, which would be $60K. I then have profit of $15K which you term "tax free." Two years later I sell it for $100K. Without including selling expenses in my example, I then have 40K of profit from the sell, but I'm actually liable for profit totaling $55K., because of the $15K that I took out two years earlier. All you're actually doing is postponing paying the tax man, which for some people could end up coming back to bite then in the behind. Is what I'm saying accurate, or did I miss something? Any examples I use for tax free profit I intend on holding long term. Even if I sell years later, I still had the use of that tax money for all those years for free. Perhaps, I should of explained it further. But I do consider it tax free profit since my intent is to never sell the money machine I have created. Any way, thanks for writing the book. I only hope there aren't many people around here that read it also! :-) Barry P
Investor financing has always had its ups & down with acquiring it. When I don't get what I want with one lender I find another. I adjust, I get creative and find a way to make it work. People can "what if" themselves right out of ever making a deal. However, I have run into a bad appraisal, though rarely. I just dispute it, find another appraiser, or another lender, or adjust and move on. There will always be road blocks or mountains to conquer from time to time. Don't let the challenge stop you, pursue your dream!Andy V
Allen, I just finished reading your book about foreclosure investing. I didn't need
to read more than about two chapters to know this is something I'm going to
start doing as soon as possible. The question I have is this: Although you state
that the profit is tax free when you refinance (by renting the house instead of
selling), don't you pay taxes on it at whatever point you end up selling?
Allen- Allen, Hello, Allen & Debra! I cannot thank you enough for the enjoyable day spent in your lovely home on Saturday. It was a very rewarding and informative day, made all the more enjoyable by Debra's gracious role as our hostess. Martha Stewart, herself, could not have done it any better! Upon my arrival home Saturday evening, I immediately delved into your book, Allen; and I have scarcely been able to put it down. The expert knowledge you personally shared with us Saturday, as well as the detailed information in the book are far superior to the other books and courses I have spent the past several months gathering. I have decided to get out the door and get going on this new venture. . . TODAY! I am excited to tell you that I have found a local house in foreclosure (from our little weekly newspaper). It is located in a very exclusive and expensive neighborhood not far from here. I will be doing a drive-by look this afternoon, and IF I can muster the courage to do so, I'll knock on the door and see what I can learn. This is definitely NOT something I would have even considered doing a week ago; so you see, Allen, your wealth of information has the power to change lives! Keep up the good work, and thank you for sharing your knowledge and encouragement. Kathryn S. Hello, I am considering subscribing to your foreclosure service. Before I do,
I want to make sure I understand what kind of information I am getting. Is the
info only for properties owned by the banks, also know as REO's or Bank-Owned
Real Estate? Hi, I would like to have more information on the foreclosure directory. Dear Allen I believe it is the same product, partially anyway, I'm sure the free one is a lead into buying the real meat & potatoes course. But I do not market either one. Foreclosureworld.com has a license to re-package and market my book. I have picked up a list at the sheriffs office on the sales in this local area. I have found a house that the sales list says $62,008.48. I will admit that I really don't know what the value of the house is but it would have to start at least $150 k and up. I called the attorneys phone # on the list and was told this was the first lien, but their records indicated three more liens had been on in the past. She gave me the names of the three liens but that was all they had, nothing showed if they were paid off no addresses, no numbers, just three names. I am trying to learn through this research of this property and I will attend the sale but I won't be able to bid because I do not have any money. This is where I wish I could find an Investor that is interested and maybe I could get a finders fee. I don't know what to do next, do you have any suggestions? You did well getting the information out of the attorneys office that you did, they are not always so cooperative. I give you ideas in the book to locate financial partners. My Wholesale/Flipping Systems Course, ideas on locating people to flip to. When at the auction, there is likely potential financial partners there, or people you can just flip a deal to. I would like to tell you how I feel about what I have learned in reading your materials but I really don't have the words, but I will say a great thanks. Thank you so very much for your valuable time, I hope I can achieve just a small fraction of what you have. Maybe one of my toughest obstacles at this time is my being on SSI disability and trying to make that first investment get me started, but I don't, and won't give up. Thank you for your time. Sincerely yours David G
Allen,
PLEASE CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION TO YOUR GET RICH FORECLOSURES I AM SORRY BUT
JUST DON'T HAVE THE FINDINGS....TAMMY Hi Allen, Read and re-read your book and now I am ready. I've looked at houses and
making offers. However, I find that investors only want to pay 75% of the asking
price. So I am going to start flipping properties for that quick paycheck. I
found 2 houses to flip. The asking price was 129,777 and I was able to negotiate
with the realtor at $115,00.
Allen, Hi Allen,
Allen , I just read a page on your website which spoke about
"armchair" investors, which I am interested in. Can I obtain more
information about this method (really all I want to know if there is a chance of
loosing the "My" investment?) Hello Allen, Yes, my mentoring is done at a distance. In person it would cost a lot more just because of the value of time. I love teaching however, it has to cover my time while not making deals. Frankly, I can only devote a limited amount of time to it because of all my activities. Plus, I believe via e-mail to be the best because it; 1. allows reflection, and a thought through response to questions, and for me to give the best guidance and direction possible. 2. it provides a written record, a journal of our correspondence that can be read and re-read by the mentoree. Repetition is the Mother of all learning. 3. Time flexibility. I usually respond within 24 hours or sooner. Sometimes late at night or early in the morning. Winning bids is easy if you pay too much. Winning bids at a profitable price is the main ingredient to success. I've seen people get caught up with their ego and pay too much just to win. Expensive ego's create failure's. Also a little feedback about your site. I've developed hundreds of sites so I'm speaking from a professional point of view. I know this is an unsolicited critic and you have every right to tell me to go jump off the nearest bridge. If you're making the kind of money you claim, why not drop a couple of grand to make your site look more professional? Good point! However, my main focus in life is not the web site. I still actively invest. When I drop a couple of grand it is usually toward real estate or for my family. Having grown up and starting out in the hole, I can sometimes be tight minded when it comes to letting go of what I have worked so hard to acquire. It has been a work in progress for a few years now. It will continue to get better. I'm certainly open minded. To be honest when I saw your site I was disappointed. It actually hurts your credibility to have a site that looks amateurish. Your going to hurt my personal assistants' feelings! Actually, she has improved upon what I developed. Your point is well taken. I am an amateur when it comes to computers, marketing, and promotion. It is interesting though, I have rave complements on it as well. Even what I created years ago. I think it depends on the individuals knowledge and experience. Certainly, it is more the content and not so much the presentation. That is why I heard from you, right! I'm open to suggestions or perhaps a barter. I realize the presentation is a factor to making the site a bigger success. Also, most realtors I know have a glamour shot they use to promote themselves. You should replace that snap shot you use with a professionally done photo. Check out the Allen Watkins page. That is a glamour shot although, about 7 years old. I plan to get it updated. I just need to make the time. Your site should project an image of success. It should scream money. Just my opinion. Your absolutely right! Part of it is probably my "No Puff, No Fluff----Just the Meat and Potatoes!" point of reference. I welcome suggestions. I am very interested in your mentoring program and would like information. The web site pretty much covers it and what I said above, if you have a specific question, I'll be happy to answer it! Thanks for your comments! All the Best, Bob O. Online Sales Manager Allen: It all depends on your financial strength with your bank, talk to your banker. What assets do you have available for collateral? Give them something to work with. Equity in your personal residence, life insurance, etc. A private partner. I do have 2 names of private financial partners in the Chicago-land area who work with investors. However, since I give that information to my seminar attendees and mentor students, it wouldn't be proper to give out otherwise. You could buy from the bank after the auction if no one else gets it then you would have the time for financing. But you'll have to negotiate your price.2) There are other liens against the property. If I win at the auction, will I be responsible for those in any way? If they are superior to the one foreclosing yes, junior no. They will be wiped out. Re-read the book. 3) In your experience, should I pursue purchasing the property through the RE agent before auction? How?? I have spoken to the agent. I asked her if there was significant room to move down on the price (since it will start much cheaper at the auction in 2wks). Her reply was that it is worth every bit of the asking price. Thanks in advance, and God Bless.Maybe she has a hidden agenda. Make your offer. Then make sure it gets presented even if you have to contact the seller yourself. Of course, time is of the essence. You'll have to contact the attorney for the mortgage company and convince them to postpone the auction allowing time for your deal to close.Only one complementary question session is available. There are more details, and techniques available however, such information can only properly be given to my mentor students.
Hi...how are you doing?
Dear Mr. Watkins: Yes. Is locating financial partners something which is difficult to do? Only if you do not approach people and ask the question I give you in my book. Is starting this business, your way of investing, difficult to do? Depends on the individual. Is working a 9 to 5 job for 40 years, that holds you back from achieving your goals and dreams difficult to do? Does anything in life really worthwhile and valuable to you, just come easily. No, it did not come easily for me. It took some hard work and effort. However, it sure has been worthwhile! I have to keep my full-time job for now until I start earning some money. Thank you very much for your time and help. I greatly appreciate it. Respectfully, Bob S.
Hi Allen: Yes. If so, which company or agents from which company do you use? Universal Fire & Casualty is one I have used in the past. I have not had association to use them for years now. My traditional insurance agent informed me that normally a purchased residence must be empty and in relatively good shape; a purchased residence with habitants that need to be evicted is a type of risk traditional companies will not normally write. There is insurance for those who work on rehab properties, and build new homes. It is called Builders Risk. I have it through Allstate. Although, with the rates ever increasing I need to start shopping around again. As the various sales I have attended predominantly had inhabitants who need to be evicted there are legal and insurance issues to be overcome. Besides insurance at purchase what do you suggest as an eviction process. Your answers are appreciated. That is why I teach in my book to always make contact and see if establishing rapport is possible, it makes all this easier. Sometimes, you can treat the property as tenant occupied. Talk with more agents with experience who have answers that your current guy fails to discover. Sincerely, Dan S.
From time to time I come across properties where the foreclosing plaintiff is Mortgage Electronic. What exactly is this? Never heard of them. Just a name for a company. Is it not a good thing to consider bidding on a property that is being foreclosed on by the City of Chicago? Could be, if the numbers are right. It would usually be for a demolition lien. One of my best deals ever was being foreclosed on by the City of Chicago. Because it is not the primary mortgage holder which is foreclosing. Finally is it ever OK to bid on a second? For instance, if both the second and the first combined are still well below the market value of the property. Sure, I've done it. How would I go about gaining title if I bought the second. If you bought the paper before auction then you would wait for the first to go to auction and bid above them. Otherwise, foreclose yourself. If you bought the second at the auction you would get deed after the Judge enters the order approving the sale like normal. There would still be the interest of the first on the title. You would have to work something out with them to pay them. Otherwise, they would foreclose. B.C.
Hi I am a subscriber to your foreclosure report. I was at an auction on
7/2/02 at the inter-county judicial sales corp. in Wheaton. Two of the properties
listed in your report showed only one outstanding mortgage. I researched it
myself to verify this. Yet at the sale the auctioneer said that both of the
mortgages were seconds. Is it possible that the only outstanding mortgage on a
property can be considered a second. I found your book at Amazon and ordered. I enjoyed it very much. I've done a couple of deals over the last 18 months and continue to learn. In hindsight I'm sure I missed out on a few deals that I could have made work with your insights. I'm also an Elder's Quorum President - Midland, MI 1st Ward. In fact, I'm one of the reasons I ordered was the reference to you serving as an EQ president and spending time with your family. I'm hoping you have time to answer a couple of questions. Does Illinois have a 6-12 month redemption period after the auction? No. The law changed several years ago putting it before the auction. It was 6 months. Michigan does, but it can be shortened if the house is shown to be abandoned. My first foray into buying houses was at auction and I waited the 6 months because I got such a good deal. It was a real fixer-upper, but I like them because the risk is low and the competition as well. I enjoy building and got my builders license a year ago. I am reluctant to bid unless I know that the house can be declared abandoned and the redemption time shortened. Any advice? No guarantees. My experience was that the court would shortened the redemption if shown abandoned. I have come across at least two other houses that appeared abandoned. I tracked down the owners which have turned out to be older people in rest homes. Even having power of attorney, their sons/daughters were reluctant to sell because any proceeds can be taken by the state as compensation for their rest home expenses (I believe the Fed government foots the bill, but requires the State to seek compensation). Meanwhile the homes deteriorate. Have you come across a means of them sheltering proceeds from the sell of their home in such a situation? Not been faced with that however, a tax accountant would be the person to ask. Finally, I found an abandoned home and tracked down the owner. I wasn't in a position or I would have bought the first mortgage at auction. The loan was FHA insured and since went to HUD (Jan 02). HUD has yet to auction or otherwise. Is this home in hopeless bureaucracy until HUD figures out they have it? The house would be attractive at the price of the 1st FHA mortgage. It is not attractive when you add in the 2nd mortgage (I don't know if it was FHA as well). Thanks for you time. Yes, you'll just have to wait until HUD gets through their paper shuffle. However, even then you'll likely find that they are asking more than you will want to pay per the strategy I teach. FHA does not insure 2nd mortgages. I wish you the best!
Dear Allen, Hello, I must confess I'm not very keen on the advantages of foreclosures. How can you help us? I provide you the knowledge I acquired through trial and error. And what would it involve? Your acquiring knowledge and taking action! Risk? Minimal if you follow the information I share. Keep in mind the real estate is your collateral for your investment. You control it and people are always going to need a place to live. Unlike the stock market, no collateral, no control! Time? The amount you make available. Cost? I started with nothing and I teach others how to do the same. If you have money available it is just that much easier and more profitable for you. My soft cover book $20, hardcover $25, no risk seminar $299, pay after the seminar as long as you agree it is worthwhile. I paid $500 for my 1st seminar that had a lot less than what I offer. Thank You For Your Time! Allen, Did I understand the tax free advantage correctly? P.P. No! You only enjoy the 25,000 tax free as long as you own the property. Once you sell then it becomes taxable. Allen, I just purchased your book yesterday and I have found it to be very helpful. I was hoping you could clear up a few questions I have about foreclosure auctions. I am planning on bidding at a foreclosure auction very soon. The property is in Chicago. 1. Assuming I am the high bidder, at what point should I have the home insured. Once I pay the balance of the bid, what would happen if the house was destroyed by fire before I received the deed. Would my bid payment be at risk immediately after payment?Yes, When I won the bid on properties, a.s.a.p. I would be on the phone to my insurance agent. 2. The home I am bidding on had a judgment for foreclosure in December of 2000. The first Notice of Sales was filed in March 2001 for a sale at auction in April 2001. For some reason, the property is now being auctioned in April 2002. The court case file contains nothing dated after the April 2001 Notice for Sale. Is it common for auctions to be held up this long? Would something like a bankruptcy hold it up without any record in the case file? Unfortunately, the plaintiffs lawyer and the sales agent are not forthcoming with any more information than is in the court record. Yes bankruptcy can hold up the case, sometimes mistakes by the attorney can force them to start over again. Some people steal documents out of those court files. Thanks in advance for any answer you might have. I would very much appreciate an quick answer because the auction is very soon. I look forward further contact with HOMEBARGAINS.COM in the future. I just found your website last week and think it will be a great resource for me in the future. Thanks! B. K. Hi Allen, It stalls the foreclosure until the Bankruptcy Judge decides on the case. Sometimes the lender will be forced into accepting payments as directed by the court, other times the property may be dismissed from the case, and the lender allowed to continue the foreclosure. Bankruptcy is sometimes just a stall tactic. I am not familiar with Durant's rule. Allen: You should really spend some time absorbing the information. Not just glancing through it in one afternoon. I have an extremely difficult time believing that an "investor" would put up money in real estate with someone who is completely inexperienced, and who doesn't even have a real estate license. Your absolutely wrong! The book gives you the knowledge you need. When you start applying the information then it really starts to stick in your mind. People don't care much about your experience as long as the facts you present to them about a deal makes sense. If they see its secure and they can make money, that is what counts. You could find the deal and just give it to an investor for a finders fee and move on. Re-read page 61 sources for investors. This is exactly how I did it! People who get their Real Estate license do not know anything about investing, it is not taught in license school. You do not need a license, unless your selling for someone to earn a commission! The idea about opening savings accounts is a good one...if you have 500 dollars to spare each month. Re-read, it says nothing about 500 every month. Just one 500 deposit. And this is just one idea to build credit. Using credit cards doesn't seem to be the best idea, as I already have 4 of them and am having trouble meeting the monthly payments with the limited income from my small business venture. Well, when you use your credit cards for consumer purchases, that you do not already have the money to pay for when the bill comes in, that is what happens. Lines of credit are for investment to make money. I've used the credit card companies money to buy properties and make money many times. It always feels great! I don't believe that I am a skeptic or pessimistic, Yes you are! But you can over come that, if you don't, do you think it is really possible to ever lift yourself up from where you are now? Open your eyes! but I just don't see how someone in my position would be able to have cash available to purchase foreclosure properties at auctions or anywhere else without money. That is true, however, it does not need to be your money. The saying, "you got to have money to make money" comes to mind. This course seems to advocate that philosophy as well. If you don't have money you have to find someone who does, and that someone who does isn't going to trust their money with someone who is a beginner and just starting out. I know that I wouldn't. Sure once I had some deals under my belt, I know several people that would invest with me. But I also know they wouldn't invest until I had some experience under my belt, or at least my real estate license-which requires more money that I don't have, and time. Wrong! It is more the facts of the deal and not your experience. So until my situation with my business changes and I have some capital to work with, or you all know of "investors" that are interested in a prospect like, this I don't really see, no matter how "creative" I am, that this can possibly work. I have no cash to pay with even if I do track down a great deal. The problem here in your not being creative at all. Get rid of "I can't" Find a way to say "I can!" I'm glad that you have accomplished so much from a limited beginning. I both respect and admire that. I think having a mentor is a wonderful thing, As you can read in my book on page 56, it was all my effort. Working for free 12- 14 hours a day, 6-7 days a week for 3 months. A lot of it was grunt work, to acquire some knowledge. He didn't finance a single deal for me, or hold my hand. With the little bit of knowledge I acquired from him, I built upon it through trial & error. Wished I could of had my book instead! Would of saved lots of time, made more money and made less mistakes. but I don't believe that a book can serve as a mentor. It has been enough to help others get started. None of your excuses are legitimate. They are just excuses to not put forth the effort. Unless you know someone in the SLC area that has used your program successfully, or an investor that is willing to work with a beginner, I need to return the material. Thank you for you time. I wish you continued success. Shane S. There are plenty of people with money who would like to invest for the high return that is possible through real estate. However, you have to make the effort to find them. Return the material, the loss will only be yours. Since you purchased through one of my distributors, I only earn an override of less than $10. That is nothing. The only reason I am spending my time trying to help you is because I know it can be done, and hopefully you will be sparked to reach deep within side yourself for the strength to make it happen! That is what all successful people have to do when they are starting out. Allen, Advertise it "Newly rehabbed, Below Market, & No Closing Cost" + description and address. That should make the phone ring with prospects. Screen them as outlined in my book, and you should have it sold soon! Mr. Watkins, Well , that is a legal question and can best be answered by an attorney. I personally would start by asking the title company that I or the seller intend to run the title work through. After all, they are the ones who have to insure clear title for me. They can consult with their attorney on how to best clear the title up.
Hi Allen, You bring 10% of your maximum bid. It is OK if you win the bid for less and you give them more than 10%, you have to pay the balance in 24 hours anyway. The check is made payable to yourself, if you win endorse it over, if not, deposit back in your account.
Allen, Once you get the Judicial deed, record it. Title will be
pulled before a refi or sale of course. There is no title insurance for your
purchase. Of course you could go ahead and order a title once you record the
deed just to check to make sure that everything is cleared off. Just place a
title order for the refi or sale like normal. I never had a problem. In IN one
has to have an attorney actually go to court and do what is called a quiet
title. The judge enters an order and that wipes everything off.
Dear Allen, Hi Allen, Dear Ira,
I see there being only 2 options:
I have been reading your book Reality of Foreclosure Investing. Awesome!! I can't tell you how many books that I have read regarding foreclosure investing, they pale in comparison to yours. Thank you so much. I will let you know of my success stories in the future. Anyhow, getting to my question. I was contacted by a group called PMG Inc. (professional mentor group) They want to charge between $4000- 15,000 to supply a mentor. OK so, wouldn't it be smarter to invest that in RE. Just wondering, as I figured you could be my mentor, through the book, of course :) . Just wanted a pros thoughts on it. Thank You again. Angela R Thanks for your comments. Your right, do not pay anyone up front for the right for you, to help them invest their money, to make money. I ____________ filed a chapter-13 in July of 2001 the deal fell apart in November 2001.Why? My lawyer fail to mention in court that we had a H.U.D. offer to finance the home What was the offer? As a result the judge awarded the house the lawyers ( Codilis & Assoc. ) Does that mean it has already been to auction and the judge issued an order approving the sale? I'm afraid that we will lose the house very soon if we don't make some arrangements very soon. Maybe so however, the stress and turmoil on your family can be minimized. Answer my questions and I will respond again. I need your help as soon as you read this. Also, How much to pay off the liens completely, 1st 2nd and so forth? What do you feel the home is worth and what makes you feel that it is worth that amount? How much in repairs are needed?
Allen, I was on the HOMEBARGAINS.COM website and reading how a minimum pledge of 500 to invest in this opportunity. Can you explain more in
detail where the money is going, If I'm working out of Tennessee, will you send listings of foreclosures in my area? To get listings in your area go to my web site and click on "Nationwide Listings," then click your state on the map and follow the directions. Otherwise, my book explains how you can acquire the information yourself for your local area. New foreclosure filings, auctions, and bank owned properties. With the minimum pledge being grouped with others, how does that affect my return on the investment? As far as the $1,000 origination fee is concerned, you are paid the
percentage that your pledge represents of the entire investment, then 20% rate
of return as explained on the web site. As you can imagine we first use single
pledges that are large enough to cover a deal. Less paperwork to handle.
I am requesting assistance because I am in a distressed position somewhat like your Lincoln shire
client, my home went into foreclosure in January 2001, I filled a chapter 13 bankruptcy in April 2001
with the bankruptcy payment and mortgage payment totaling $1981.00, its becoming difficult to pay,
after trying to combine the two payment and acquiring one mortgage I was turned down because they said the
bankruptcy needs to discharged. I am in need of assistance please help. thank you, Kelly B
I found your site in one of the links which was the best thing that happened
that day to me. I have a few questions for you , Mr. Watkins.
Yes. Are there any challenges to be encountered dealing with foreclosures and REO's in this part of the country....such as, they are priced more than the rest of the country? or hard to find...etc? Benjamin M The numbers may be higher in most instances because of the higher values. Otherwise, basically similar approach to analyzing the numbers to see if you can make a profit. Of course you need to become familiar with the specific laws for your area. You do that by getting involved and asking questions as I explain in my book. Hello Allen, The balance is the amount owed the foreclosing lien as of the date Also, what sort of problems could there be with the title? All liens junior to the foreclosing lien are wiped out. Property taxes Do you list those in the report, or would a title company give that info to me if I gave them the address?For a fee. The book explains it further. And lets suppose that the previous owner decides to trash the place before he leaves. Is there any way to protect against this? Thanks, Jeff Rarely happens, in fact I don't recall it ever happening to me. I always Allen To:
Allen@HOMEBARGAINS.COM
I recently worked with a company that purchased foreclosures at the auction.
They bought a ton of properties. I was the individual that researched the
information, compiled it, and prepared it in spreadsheet form, with the opening
bids, for the acquisition specialist for when he attended the sale in an attempt
to purchase. I
I was just on salary. Now I am out of a job but know a lot and can put
together a lot. However, I have no money. I did read your book. Still, I
have no money. What else do you suggest Mr. Watkins. Like with many,
I have a family and a lot of bills. I have a skill and knowledge,
but, again, no money. I am familiar with the Foreclosure Report of
Chicago, as well as, other forms of information pertaining to the pursuit of
foreclosures. Nevertheless, I need serious feedback. Please help. I admire
your work and I could really use more of your wisdom. Maybe you can be my
mentor. I really hope to hear from you. Sincerely, LM I get your message "you don't have any money!"
So! You told me how it is. I admire that. I am going to
read your book again, and I will see how I can scrape the tuition together to
attend your seminar. It sounds like it may take me over the top once I do.
Thanks again, Allen. I
hope that it was okay to just call you Allen.
LM Dear sir:
Well, sounds pretty bad! No Heavenly Father hasn't turned away, he
answers in his own way, not the way we want. He can see the big picture and
knows what's best for us. Sometimes, that is allowing us to resolve our own
problems that we have created, because we learn and grow from that effort.
Sounds to me like you need to file bankruptcy and start fresh with your finances, re-build without all the pressure and stress, not continue to go further into debt. The rental income your getting is regular income that you have become dependant on, and creating a mortgage payment on top of your other bills is not likely the best solution. When you will probably end up right back under your current pressure in a few months. Interview with at least 3 different lawyers, then ponder it out in your mind and prayerfully decide which one will be the best one to handle your case. Allen
Help!!! I need help immediately!!!!
Wondering if you are going to have another foreclosure seminar. I have done a couple of deals in Illinois and would like some more insight. I have also read your book and I'm reading it for a second time. It has been helpful, especially your cases in point. I could read those all day. I did two deals last year which whetted my appetite, since I made money on both. However, I think I may be about to fall into the 2nd mortgage trap. There is an auction on Monday. The loan balance is $35K, at a high interest rate (12%) for 15 years, from 1997, which smells like 2nd mortgage to me. And I see an earlier loan for $89K Does this seem like a 2nd to you? Yes, unless the earlier loan for 89K has been released.
If I bid and get the house for say, $40K, does
that 1st mortgage of $89K belong to me?
Thanks! Rick D. Clarendon Hills Illinois
Yes, you didn't pay 40K you just paid 129K. Call the
attorney see if they will tell you about the position of their lien.
When in doubt don't do it. Re-read on page 54, the chapter on
research for more information.
Hello Allen, My husband and I just entered into an agreement to purchase Hi Deidra,
Hello Allen. My name is Matthew __________. I am a friend of Rosalie P. She gave me a copy of your book "The Reality of Real Estate Investing". Two and a half years ago I had a bankruptcy because of medical bills. It was discharged (CHAPTER 7) in January of 98. I discharged my mortgage and second mortgage then. I did not sign up for payments to either mortgage. I started making payments to my first mortgage later but not my second mortgage. The second mortgage was provided by my friend who built the house. Last year I entered a business deal as the Vice-President of a company that was supposed to go places. You guessed it, it didn't work and my house is in foreclosure. My house appraises at 105000.00 and my mortgage is 69000.00. My escrow is 2620.63. My delinquent amount is 8389.92. My late charge is 397.92. My mortgage payment is 750.53. My second Mortgage is 14000.00. My wife and I have no credit and 4000.00 saved up. My mortgage company will refinance me if I could come up with 6000.00. My lawyer says I can walk away on the sell date. I talked to an investor who might buy it to save my credit. I talked to somebody who might sell me a duplex rent to own if I can come up with 12000.00. Half my rent would be paid by a rental. I have nowhere to go, bad credit, and don't know what to do. If you have time could you please advise me? I can answer your questions via E-Mail or phone at 618-452-4025. I am sorry to bother you, I know you are busy. I do not know what to do.
Thank You, Hi Matthew, Some things I do not understand about
your story
Hey Allen, My Wife and I went to a foreclosure auction last Thursday in our county. We ran into the auctioneer on the court house steps and he told us a lot about the whole process. He mentioned it's usually better to not bid on a property if there is not competition, and then buy it from the bank directly a couple of weeks later. Thanks Jerry C. Dear Jerry:
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